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So, hey. That’s a lot of Rodney! And, uh, not so much with the anyone who’s not Rodney! So, for those of you who really like SGA except that you think it should have a lot more Rodney in it (and I realize that’s about 96.5% of you), this is totally your episode.

Oh, fucking dammit. It’s brilliant. I mean, obviously, the whole episode is brilliant. Righteous...indignation...ebbing! Can’t stop...enjoying...experience...!

So this is Grace Under Pressure, and it is not stupid and it is not an ill-concealed Star Trek rip-off, and it is in fact well-written and well-acted and suspenseful and deeply character-driven, and we hates them forever for proving they are capable of this kind of thing and they just never actually *do* it. Except maybe once every couple of years. For Hewlett. Whom, you know, I love, I do love, but he’s one of (*counts quietly on fingers*) TWO characters on this show that aren’t ridiculously under-used and under-developed, and why why why can’t TPTB lavish this kind of love on somebody else once in a while?

All right. On to Grace Under Pressure. Which is (grumble snorfle bitter) a really fucking good episode.

Okay, McKay + Griffin = LOVE FOREVER. There is nothing about this scene I don’t love. Here’s my theory, and I doubt it’s new or original, but I present it to you anyway: all action shows balance off action with at least one contrasting element, just because you can’t sustain a fever-pitch of intensity all the time – there have to be certain moods, qualities, interests, whatever that you create during your downtime. Some of these genre shows like to be Action+Thinky, like Battlestar Galactica and Star Trek. Atlantis is not one of those shows. Atlantis is Action+Funny. That’s what they seem to like to do, and God knows it’s the sole thing they seem able to do very well. This means that characters who don’t have a humorous element to them are in some ways only kind of on the show at all; they feel outside the structure of it. Not to be reductionist, but I wonder if their vaunted inability to write well for their female characters is essentially not knowing what to do with female humor – Elizabeth and Teyla are constantly relegated to being the straight-man (no pun intended) for their wittier male colleagues, which means that however much they participate in the big plotlines, they’ll always be only half on the show at all. I think this got thrown into relief for me with Critical Mass, where I think Cadman was the most appealing character in the episode: she got to be amusing *and* do something useful, and that kind of creates the whole Atlantis Experience, making me feel satisfied with the character. Likewise with Griffin; he only gets a few minutes before he’s all Gallified, but they use those few minutes to establish his “reality” by making him A) good at his job and able to do something that matters, and 2) funny. That’s the formula. I think there’s a fear among the writers that if they make their Women in Leadership Roles funny, people won’t respect them (which is odd, since they fully expect us to respect Sheppard, who’s a lot funnier than he is competent) – at one point I would’ve said they can’t hack writing female humor, but I think Cadman and Novik are both pretty successful, so I’m back to some sense that they avoid it deliberately to prove how Strong both Elizabeth and Teyla are. Elizabeth’s character, IMO, suffers tremendously, almost fatally for it; Teyla fares slightly better, and for that I credit Rachel, who has that gift for adding a sense that her character is amused by the world around her and in on the jokes – she reminds me of the way Gillian played Scully in that sense. Torri doesn’t in general seem to be able to do that, and I’m sorry the writers are so stubborn about this issue, because every single time I see Torri do commentary or whatnot, she strikes me as a hysterically funny person; I wish, rather than cleaving to this unbearably dull pre-conceived notion of the Strong Woman, they would do with her what they apparently do with David and Joe and let her actual personality influence the way her character gets written. I mean, she’s the second lead: should she really be less engaging than three minutes of Griffin?

It seems a damn shame to spend my Heather Hearts McKay moment this early in an all-McKay, all-the-time episode, but there it was: “Oh, yes, OF THE BARCELONA MCKAYS.” Can’t fight it. That was definitely it.

Zelenka! You know, I’m sure other people will be all McSheppy about this episode, but for my money, this was the McKay/Zelenka Episode of Lurve. He sounds so drawn and tired, and I can just *picture* him sitting there for *an hour* calling for Rodney over and over, worn down but not giving up on getting a signal through!

I love how Rodney really cares about science, right up until he’s in danger. Like in Hot Zone, where Carson is like, “Hey, why would it kill some people and not others?” and Rodney’s all, “Screw that, I’m one of the not others! Who gives a damn?” And here it is again, with Zelenka being like, “These Jumpers, they can really do a lot of stuff!” and Rodney saying “not so keen on setting any records,” in that tone of if you don’t quit fucking around and get me out of here, you will never get another blowjob again, ever. I mean...that was the tone, right?

And then – mmm, Gall-tastic! Man, people just keep dying to save McKay, don’t they? There may not be enough therapy in the world.

Although clearly he’s already had some therapy, from his ability to visualize his safe space. Okay, corollary to the above: there’s not enough *money* in the world to make me want to be Rodney’s therapist.

What with the talking to himself and giving himself orders, the early part of this ep reminds me of the early part of Epiphany. Though I think it’s kind of funny that McKay’s orders are “prioritize!” and Sheppard’s are “don’t shoot yourself in the foot!” I guess we all set the bar where we feel comfortable with it.

I adore that he’s yelling at machinery. I can’t remember seeing him do that before; I think in general he’s too much of a rationalist and he probably makes fun of people who think that computers can hear them when they talk. I would put this down to either the head wound or the panic, but it’s a nice, non-jarring way to show that he’s not functioning like he normally does, before things get really weird. Also, I just kind of want to read a whole story about his feelings about the Jumpers, because I think if you’re going to personify *anything,* that’s where you’d start, and anyway he hangs out with Sheppard – and given that, are the Jumpers Rodney’s bothersome in-laws or the hot secretaries at the office that he keeps worrying about Sheppard working late with? Discuss.

Peter Jackson’s lasting contribution to the history of cinematography: crazy people can now be indicated as crazy by use of the Gollum-shot. Poor Smeagol!

I think it’s interesting that Sheppard makes a point of telling Elizabeth everybody’s names as he explains his plans. That just seems very Sheppard somehow; most people I think would be like “we have this giant cable, see,” instead of “Drs. Moore and McNab have kindly offered to let me use this giant cable they brought.” Sheppard is such a natural coalition-builder that even when he’s on a deadline and scurrying around, it’s just his nature to point out that whatever he’s doing is a team effort.

Why does Elizabeth have to be bugged in order to approve trying out the Jumpers underwater? Isn’t that, you know, science and exploration and exactly the point of the entire mission? Also, wouldn’t it just be handy to have some specs, in case a Jumper should, oh, unexpectedly crash and sink under the sea? Is this related to the reason they’re always busting their asses to trade for beans and potatoes, and we never see them eating seafood?

But now we have a sea monster, so at least we have proof that Atlantis isn’t actually floating in a giant chlorinated pool.

The only thing I fear about Sam’s role in this episode – which overall is delightful – is that people will fall into the trap of thinking of her as somehow speaking for Rodney’s real self, or his better self, or the more-true layer of his thoughts. When actually, what I think is fascinating about this episode is not that we get a chance to see the “real” McKay, but that McKay is such a profoundly divided personality, and that relies on seeing both his dialogue and Sam’s as “really” representative of him. He *really* knows she’s outsmarted him over and over, but at the same time he’s *really* convinced he’s smarter. He *really* trusts his friends, but at the same time he *really* doesn’t. It’s a mess in there, and I think that makes him much more fascinating than if he maintained this crusty exterior/loving heart schtick that would emerge if you saw the Rodney-lines as ego and the Sam-lines as id.

It gets even better in psychosexual terms: he *really* wants the companionship of someone whom he respects and someone who can rein him in when he’s making mistakes (someone like, oh, Zelenka), but at the same time he *really* wants someone who is adoring, complimentary, and if not slutty, then certainly clearly available to him, probably in emotional and sexual terms both (someone like Katie Brown). In a sense, his arguments with Sam about their relationship aren’t just about which of the options he prefers – I mean, they are, but the fact that he’s fixated on Sam at all, who is both smart/competent/willing to stand up to him and also this sort of inherently sweet-natured person who’s always kind of played Mary Richards on her own show and been supportive of her guys, I think indicates a kind of half-assed attempt to resolve this conflict on his own part. He may see her as the only chance he’ll ever have to combine the two women he wants into one package. (This reading of his character is potentially challenging to McShep shippers, since Sheppard is in *no* sense available and would never be caught dead bolstering McKay’s sense of importance. However, the course of true love never did run smooth. And it is intriguing if you’re a McKay/Zelenka or McKay/Beckett shipper, since both of those characters do sort of combine their fellow-genius aspects with personalities that are somewhat geared toward being caretakers/support systems.)

This episode is *so good* that I even enjoy a moment of Elizabeth, that’s how good it is. After Sheppard cuts her off with his “of course it’s an order, shut up!” she gives him this fantastic look, like, “Would you shut up a second, you stupid boy? I’m trying to be emotionally manipulative over here!” I mean, *clearly* she has no intention either of letting Zelenka opt out of this, but she’s trying to be fucking subtle about it, thanks.

You have to give Rodney credit: even though he thinks they’re planning his memorial service, he gives no indication that he thinks they’re *unwilling* to rescue him, only unable to do so. This puts him one up on Sheppard, and don’t you think somebody should tell Sheppard that? If being less emotionally stable than Rodney McKay doesn’t make you want to get help....

I like the way she looks down at herself when he accuses her of being in no way dressed provocatively. That’s either “really, what am I wearing? I hadn’t noticed,” or it’s “are you kidding me? I’ve got breasts all over the place, here!” Because, you know, women’s idea of “dressed provocatively” is often somewhat different than men’s: she probably would think that showing up to work with cleavage counts as provocative, while Rodney’s thinking about something more in the French maid/naughty schoolgirl family.

See, it’s not only Rodney who can’t work while John is yammering at him.

Isn’t it just the height of ironic that he’s in this mess at all because *one* time he agreed to do a favor for a friend? You know that normally Rodney doesn’t pick up other people’s jobs, because he believes he’s so irreplaceable (and he may be right, I don’t know) that they can’t possibly cover for him in exchange. By that logic, everything that was assigned to someone else that McKay is doing instead is wasted time where his own, much more difficult work goes unworked-on. This would offend both McKay’s self-importance and his pragmatism, so it must have been a big deal for him to agree to this at all. The only reason I can think of for him to have agreed to it (short of some kind of blackmail goods Zelenka’s got on him that we don’t know about) is that he quite simply likes Zelenka and was willing to go out of his way because Zelenka seemed genuinely upset and he was moved to help. And look how the universe repays his generosity! This can’t be good for McKay’s moral development.

It’s nice to know that Sheppard’s Czech is getting better. I mean, Satedans, Athosians, Wraith, and Genii are one thing, but you can’t expect *everyone* to speak English all the time just because you do. That’s the kind of thing that gives Americans a bad reputation.

You can tell when an episode is working when you’re a step ahead of the plotline and it makes you feel *smart* instead of surrounded by stupid people. As soon as Sheppard says, “hey, buddy, just open the door!” I knew McKay was going to be afraid it was another hallucination, and there would be this final showdown between his trust and his fear – and in a lesser episode, this would have made me all like, blah blah, saw *this* coming. But because they amazingly haven’t been morons yet today and the writers are coming across as particularly competent, it feels not predictable but necessary, like you can see it coming because it’s the absolute perfectly correct thing to happen next.

I feel like I haven’t said much of anything that’s terribly useful or interesting. I have learned, for my own part, that bad episodes are much easier to comment on than good episodes; with good episodes, I mostly sit here going, that was clever, that was cool, hey, I liked that, good job there! Thank God I don’t have to worry about having this problem a lot with my show. Helloooo, Tower; I’m looking at *you,* pal.

Date: 2006-01-29 09:32 am (UTC)From: [identity profile] millefiori.livejournal.com
Your comments about Griffin, Elizabeth and Teyla make me want to copy, paste and send directly to the SGA writers. Also love the insight about Rodney's divided personality, because again, yes!

I feel like I haven’t said much of anything that’s terribly useful or interesting.

Feelings aren't facts. ;)

Date: 2006-01-29 10:41 am (UTC)From: [identity profile] not-sally.livejournal.com
I love seeing the episode (and the episode love) from the eyes of a not-totally-mad-for-Rodney fan.
For us Rodney devotees, this was without a doubt the best episode yet, and not only because we got so much Rodney out of it, but because they give you such an insight to his neuroses that it's so appealing.
I found it awesome that it could be read so many ways. Just on the shipping department you can assume Rodney will forever love Sam, or that John is the love of his life, or like you pointed out, it's all about Radek. All of them fit.

and it is in fact well-written and well-acted and suspenseful and deeply character-driven, and we hates them forever for proving they are capable of this kind of thing and they just never actually *do* it.

And I know. I wish there were episodes like this for everyone (Teyla, Ronon? aren't they main characters? don't they have dark tragic pasts and about as many neurosis? where the fuck is their canon?) but I am glad the did it for Rodney, because even if you're not a fan, you've got to admit David Hewlett owns the show. And we love him, precious, yes we do.

Date: 2006-01-29 11:02 am (UTC)From: [identity profile] mirabile-dictu.livejournal.com
This is a great review -- I've saved it and will re-read. Good insights into the characters as well as into the terrible flaws of most SGA episodes. I adored this episode, and though I'm 100% Rodney's girl, I wish each of the characters, right down to poor Kavanagh, would get one like it. Thank you.

Date: 2006-01-29 11:19 am (UTC)From: [identity profile] dar-jeeling.livejournal.com
Hey there! Just wanted to let you know that I really like your reviews. Interesting points, character musings, plot critique and a very engaging writing style. Much love for you. :)

Date: 2006-01-29 02:13 pm (UTC)From: [identity profile] mikou.livejournal.com
When I realized how much Rodney there would be in this episode (and how little not-Rodney) I thought I would dislike it. I do think Rodney is funny and I find that and his mess of contradictions (fear, bravery, intelligence, foolishness) interesting, but usually prefer it in smaller doses. Of course, I rarely get what I want, but have come to appreciate him and latch on to the crumbs I get of the other characters I like.

However, I had just watched SG-1, where Teal'C is in trouble and Sam and Daniel (and several others) are doing their darndest to find him. The only missing member of the team had a darned good reason (dying friend) for not being there, but, in the end, made it back to help.

So, then I watch SGA where Rodney is trouble and John and several others are doing their darndest, et cetera. But where the hell are Teyla & Ronon? Even if they weren't front and center (which they rarely are) I'd at least like some mention. Maybe it was there and I missed it. If so, I guess I really needed to *see* why their teammate almost dies and everyone is part of the rescue mission except them. It's especially frustrating because I'm betting that the show will not deal with the psychological repurcussions of Rodney's ordeal (near death, survivor's guilt) so this is it.

A good episode, but that just bugged me, even though I *know* that the show is much better at humor than drama and character development. Maybe if this week's BSG had been better, it wouldn't have bothered me so much.

Date: 2006-01-29 04:28 pm (UTC)From: [identity profile] cesperanza.livejournal.com
I love this analysis. It makes me all meep meep! happy! about Atlantis!

Date: 2006-01-29 06:00 pm (UTC)From: [identity profile] callmerizzo.livejournal.com
The only thing I fear about Sam’s role in this episode – which overall is delightful – is that people will fall into the trap of thinking of her as somehow speaking for Rodney’s real self, or his better self, or the more-true layer of his thoughts. When actually, what I think is fascinating about this episode is not that we get a chance to see the “real” McKay, but that McKay is such a profoundly divided personality, and that relies on seeing both his dialogue and Sam’s as “really” representative of him. He *really* knows she’s outsmarted him over and over, but at the same time he’s *really* convinced he’s smarter. He *really* trusts his friends, but at the same time he *really* doesn’t. It’s a mess in there, and I think that makes him much more fascinating than if he maintained this crusty exterior/loving heart schtick that would emerge if you saw the Rodney-lines as ego and the Sam-lines as id.

I really, really like this insight. It *would* be easy to fall into the trap of believing that Sam represents the real McKay, the "new and improved" McKay, especially when the death of Griffin and Rodney's reaction to it reminded me so much of the death of Gall and Gall's assertation that McKay had "changed." But I like your interpretation much better: that Rodney is actually divided, and that each "half" is as real and fixed as the other. He does trust his team, and yet he still doesn't, he can't. Nice. Thanks for giving me something to think about!

Date: 2006-01-29 10:20 pm (UTC)From: [identity profile] kiezh.livejournal.com
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why why why can’t TPTB lavish this kind of love on somebody else once in a while?

I hear you. I like Rodney, but there are other characters I like as much or better, and I definitely don't want an all-Rodney, all-the-time show. Also, I like him better in combination with other characters than I do all alone; he strikes sparks nicely. I was happy when hallucination!Sam showed up, because if he has to talk to himself, he can at least talk to an externalized self, who will snark back.

I didn't think of "Sam" as representing Rodney's real self at all, but as Rodney's view of Sam Carter, who both punctures his confidence and encourages him, who can say and believe things he can't (consciously). She actually seemed pretty Sam-like to me - I was impressed. I mean, it would be plausible but rather disgusting if Rodney's fantasy of Sam had been more adoring and self-effacing, a kind of Sam-shaped doll, but she really wasn't. She poked at him and argued with him and was right, which suggests that those are some of the things he finds attractive in her. (And possibly in some other, more subtextual romantic interests.)

You have to give Rodney credit: even though he thinks they’re planning his memorial service, he gives no indication that he thinks they’re *unwilling* to rescue him, only unable to do so. This puts him one up on Sheppard, and don’t you think somebody should tell Sheppard that?

I see Epiphany and Grace Under Pressure as a deliberate parallel/contrast on their respective trust issues. John assumes that his people can move mountains, but worries that they wouldn't do it for him (note that he doesn't seem to seriously consider the idea that they can't get to him, though that is actually the case). Rodney assumes that his people will try their best, but thinks that they won't be able to solve the problem. John trusts their brains but not their hearts, and Rodney trusts their hearts but not their brains.

Maybe this is a side effect of living life as the smartest/most loyal person around, with others continually falling short?

Anyway, great thought-provoking review of an episode full of good stuff. I could have babbled more about the things you said, but I should stop writing a book in your comments. :)

Okay, just one more note. You're absolutely right about Elizabeth's enforced humorlessness - some of her best and most fannishly popular moments have been ones when she's allowed to be teasing, friendly, a bit silly, just like the guys are all the time. I can see it as a characterization thing, that she's reluctant to be too familiar with her subordinates, but it would really help if she were allowed to snark more at Rodney, John, and Carson, who aren't all that subordinate and are themselves snarky as hell. More Elizabeth-Teyla interaction would be good, too, both the serious burdens-of-leadership stuff they used to get and some silly culture-clash moments.

Date: 2006-01-30 12:03 am (UTC)From: [identity profile] namastenancy.livejournal.com
Hey - a really good commentary. I like McKay but in smaller doses; even in this one, I got a bit tired of the screech, the over the top mannerisms, the arrogance and the sagging roll of fat under his chin. I really understand why he didn't want to take his shirt off; I can be a bit of a McKay fan girl but I'm not blind! However, DH is a fine actor and he did justice to this script. The one part I liked the best was right at the end when DH was waving good-by to Sam (and whatever she represented to him). He dropped the mannerisms, the hostility and the arrogance and just WAS as an actor. That was a sweet sweet moment of acting and I wish that the director had given us more of that before the jumper door shut. We don't get that much of the deeper emotions on SGA; I agree that it's a funny-action show and I'm OK with that but when you have a chance to show something deeper, then why not go with it?

Date: 2006-01-30 02:34 am (UTC)From: [identity profile] palebluebell.livejournal.com
I love your commentaries, and always end up agreeing with everything you've said.

Your thoughts on the lack of humour infused into the female characters was a real: 'Oh my God!' moment for me, because: Yes! That's exactly what's wrong. Brilliant.

I also concur: Rodney's discordant personality traits make him far more interesting and ultimately, I think, more human. It'd be a shame if they did away with any of that.

Thank you for another wonderful round-up of an episode.

Date: 2006-01-30 12:50 pm (UTC)From: [personal profile] cyanne
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Wonderful review. Wish I had time enough to say something more intelligent than that, but I love the way you look at things.

given that, are the Jumpers Rodney's bothersome in-laws or the hot secretaries at the office that he keeps worrying about Sheppard working late with? Discuss.

This just cracked me up. Yes, I can so see Rodney being jealous of the technology.

Date: 2006-01-30 01:12 pm (UTC)From: [identity profile] thepouncer.livejournal.com
When actually, what I think is fascinating about this episode is not that we get a chance to see the “real” McKay, but that McKay is such a profoundly divided personality, and that relies on seeing both his dialogue and Sam’s as “really” representative of him. He *really* knows she’s outsmarted him over and over, but at the same time he’s *really* convinced he’s smarter. He *really* trusts his friends, but at the same time he *really* doesn’t. It’s a mess in there, and I think that makes him much more fascinating than if he maintained this crusty exterior/loving heart schtick that would emerge if you saw the Rodney-lines as ego and the Sam-lines as id.

Yes. Profoundly divided, and that's what makes him interesting - all those contradictions!

I see flashes of humor in Weir later in the season, so I have a vague hope that the writers are allowing her to loosen up. I love Elizabeth, but get frustrated at her role on the show being so limited.

Date: 2006-01-31 11:06 am (UTC)From: [identity profile] hth-the-first.livejournal.com
I have reached a level of despair where I believe the SGA writers really just don't give a damn, which saves me a lot of stamps. Sigh. Thank God for ranting on the internet, right?

Date: 2006-01-31 11:10 am (UTC)From: [identity profile] hth-the-first.livejournal.com
(Teyla, Ronon? aren't they main characters? don't they have dark tragic pasts and about as many neurosis? where the fuck is their canon?)

I know, right? Like, what kind of inner conflict or unresolved issues could they possibly have, what with the A) lifetime spent on the ragged edge of cultural extinction and being placed into a position of leadership at a relatively young age, B) finding yourself on the bad side of cultural extinction after the better part of a decade living like a hunted animal all day every day? What do you even *say* to writers who can't figure out where the drama might lie in that?

because even if you're not a fan, you've got to admit David Hewlett owns the show.

*g* I know, I just wish he'd lease it out to the other characters every now and then....

Date: 2006-01-31 11:13 am (UTC)From: [identity profile] hth-the-first.livejournal.com
Dude, I would totally dig the all-Kavanagh episode! The thing I love about Dr. K is that even though he's sort of dreadful as a person, he's not actually wrong when he says that Atlantis is mismanaged and operates in defiance of pretty much every law and professional convention known to the planet Earth. I think seeing the place through his eyes would be cool, not to mention instructive. Also, how much would I love to know wtf was actually with those three encoded messages?

Date: 2006-01-31 11:13 am (UTC)From: [identity profile] hth-the-first.livejournal.com
Thanks! I do love to be loved *g*

Date: 2006-01-31 11:20 am (UTC)From: [identity profile] hth-the-first.livejournal.com
I do think Rodney is funny and I find that and his mess of contradictions (fear, bravery, intelligence, foolishness) interesting, but usually prefer it in smaller doses.

I'm totally with you on this. Rodney (and DH) does what he does very well, but I think he's often better deployed as one element of the episode. He's like paprika -- there's such a thing as so much that you can't get past it to taste anything else that might be in there. But what can I say, in this case I think it worked out all right.

But where the hell are Teyla & Ronon? Even if they weren't front and center (which they rarely are) I'd at least like some mention. Maybe it was there and I missed it.

You didn't, trust me. Normally the *only* thing I'm sure of after seeing an episode once is where Ronon was; in this case I've seen it three times, and he's definitely nowhere. And I mean, would it have been so hard? I realize they don't have the kind of skills that actually lend themselves to this mission, but if they'd just been there in one of the briefing scenes, standing around looking concerned, I would have been happy. (Also, if I for a second believed they were off-screen because Rachel and Jason were busy filming the subsequent all-Pegasus episode that hardly anybody else would get to be in, I would have been happy, but ha ha ha.) I didn't think of it in comparison to the SG1 that aired that same night, but yeah, the differences are pretty glaring.

Date: 2006-01-31 11:20 am (UTC)From: [identity profile] hth-the-first.livejournal.com
I know, and how often does THAT happen, right? We celebrate! *g*

Date: 2006-01-31 11:27 am (UTC)From: [identity profile] hth-the-first.livejournal.com
Maybe this is a side effect of living life as the smartest/most loyal person around, with others continually falling short?

I absolutely *love* this line, and it totally pulls all this stuff that I've been thinking about together and makes it make sense. Yes! Rodney is so open and talky about the fallout of being the kind of person who is always able to see the intellectual mistakes other people are making -- John is so much more covert about everything, but it's the perfect parallel: he's always been able to see the failures in commitment and loyalty that people around him make, and for exactly the same reason as Rodney. His abilities in that area are so developed that he's just operating on a whole different level and is never sure what's too much to expect from everyone else. Brilliant!

I can see it as a characterization thing, that she's reluctant to be too familiar with her subordinates

I can totally see that, too -- and in fact, I think Torri has said or implied some similar things in interviews. Which is cool, but that's the whole point of character arcs, you know? Like, would it be so ridiculous to have her go through a process of change, too, from feeling like she'll let people down and lose their respect and loyalty if she seems overwhelmed or vulnerable in any way, toward realizing that these people are her team and are more than willing to bust their asses to help support her any time she just comes out and says she could use some support?

Date: 2006-01-31 01:35 pm (UTC)From: [identity profile] justabi.livejournal.com
Yes! It so was the McKay/Zelenka episode of lurve!!!

Date: 2006-01-31 02:01 pm (UTC)From: [identity profile] mirabile-dictu.livejournal.com
Hee! I just said this to [livejournal.com profile] namastenancy:

he's not actually wrong when he says that Atlantis is mismanaged and operates in defiance of pretty much every law and professional convention known to the planet Earth

It would drive me wild, too. Yes, he's unpleasant, and he has the tact of a tank -- even worse than Rodney -- but what SGA doesn't want to address is that he's right.

Also, how much would I love to know wtf was actually with those three encoded messages?

I couldn't even watch that ep. Just too cringe-worthy. I mean, when the person they appear to want us to dislike is the most sympathetic -- well, that's bad writing.

Date: 2006-01-31 10:58 pm (UTC)From: [identity profile] wemblee.livejournal.com
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because every single time I see Torri do commentary or whatnot, she strikes me as a hysterically funny person; I wish, rather than cleaving to this unbearably dull pre-conceived notion of the Strong Woman, they would do with her what they apparently do with David and Joe and let her actual personality influence the way her character gets written. I mean, she’s the second lead: should she really be less engaging than three minutes of Griffin?


A-frickin'-men. I never thought about it this way before, and I think you've hit it on the head. Moreover, I don't think the SGA writers are the only ones with this problem.

...are there any women on the SGA writing staff?

Date: 2006-02-01 01:43 am (UTC)From: [identity profile] kiezh.livejournal.com
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he's always been able to see the failures in commitment and loyalty that people around him make, and for exactly the same reason as Rodney.

So John's disrespect for military structure is the equivalent of Rodney's "I'm surrounded by morons!" ranting? He's disappointed in them! Those degrees/ranks are supposed to indicate brains/commitment to one's people, dammit! ;)

that's the whole point of character arcs, you know?

Character arc for Elizabeth. *sigh of longing*

Can we have one for Teyla, too? One that takes advantage of her ability to improvise technobabble? (Never getting over that!) And hey, while we're dreaming, how about an ep or two about the impact of Sateda's destruction on the cultural/trade network of the Pegasus Galaxy, during which we get inside Ronon's head a lot? And his team has to comfort him. A lot.

Date: 2006-02-02 09:03 pm (UTC)From: [identity profile] emsworth3.livejournal.com
Hi!

I just stumbled upon your fic (and consequently your LJ) today and now absolutely must begin stalking you now. I will be writing you a seperate comment after I've read Alpha Centauri 7 (I was so upset because I had finished the series and then found your journal and another part, love happy coincidences!) to gush so for now let me just say that your commentaries are wonderfully insightful and (most importantly) utterly hilarious! Also, if you are unopposed to spoiling I would love to send you "The Long Goodbye" just to read your opinions on it (frankly, I'm so in love with that episode I would be willing to send it to just about anybody just so I had someone to squee about Ronon with!) But mostly because you are too funny and I'm scarily enjoying your commentaries almost more than the eps themselves.

Date: 2006-02-04 12:27 pm (UTC)From: (Anonymous)
Apart from DH, the bit I think I loved most about this ep, is the fact that McKay uses lemon as an insult - that bit just sorta sold the whole thing, I mean that I was enjoying it up till then, but really that just made my day.

LEMON!

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