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Warning: the following is not nice. It is not just, it is not kind, it is not respectful, and it may not even be sane. I may regret it in the morning, I don't know.



In clicking randomly through lj links this evening, I ran across a post-ep entry from somebody whose name I know from SGA fandom -- I specify that because I want to say she's not someone I have some kind of pre-existing grudge toward; I really only recognize the name and know nothing about her, really (I'm even only assuming it's a "her," out of statistical likelihood). And even though I've been frothing at the mouth for an hour now, I'm not trying to put her in particular on the spot for Fandom Crimes writ large, which is the reason I'm not naming her or being super-specific; I suppose she'd recognize herself, and maybe some other people would, too, but mainly I'm hoping it's anonymous enough to let me vent without putting her in an embarrassing position.

That said.

There was a person, right, a relatively prolific writer of and about Sheppard/McKay, and she'd seen an episode, and the episode contained some pretty obscure potential subtext between two characters that she particularly dislikes as a pairing -- enough that she felt it might give people an excuse to write fic about this pairing. And to paraphrase, she basically said, Oh, God, I hate CharacterZ/CharacterQ, and lately everyone seems to love them, and this will only get those other fans all excited. Maybe I'll just unsubscribe from sga_noticeboard until I don't have to worry about seeing all those CharacterZ/CharacterQ stories floating around.

And I don't exactly know where to begin, but I just -- I continue to be so fucking appalled at the outrageously self-centered, entitled, black-hole-of-need wing of McShep fandom. YOU MOTHERFUCKERS ALREADY OWN EVERYTHING. You are everywhere. Your pairing is everywhere. Are we even *on* the same sga_noticeboard? People are writing you literally a dozen or more stories PER DAY, all about your darling lovelies. YOU HAVE FUCKING WON, ALL RIGHT? Now get off our fucking backs!

I don't know if there will be a mad upsurge in Z/Q fic, but I'm pretty sure that if so, "mad upsurge"=maybe five or six stories MAX, TOTAL written by X/Q fans in response to Episode T. But your VIRGIN FUCKING EYEBALLS aren't capable of doing what we plebes do every day of our lives and PAGING DOWN your flist, past the links to the stories you don't want to read? You're too goddamn good for that? The mere knowledge that other people are out there writing their crazy Other Pairings is so upsetting for you that you have to go lie down with a cold compress until it's over?

Well, lucky fucking you -- because it will be over. If I want to unsub and come back when everybody's writing what I want and not writing what I don't want, I'll be gone for a factor of FOREVER.

And you know what? I do truly think that's what a lot of people want. I think there's a stratum of this fandom that would like people like me to just go away, because all we're doing is breathing the oxygen of the McKay/Sheppard people. And it's not just that they don't like our pairings and they don't care what we do -- I've never read a Lorne/Parrish story in my life, because I don't care and I don't want to; I'm not saying everyone needs to be a fan of everything. It goes way past that. It's not "well, whatever you want, I'll be over here doing my thing," it's this attitude like we are an actual drag to have co-existing within the same fandom. You have to UNSUB? SERIOUSLY? So you don't accidentally read our HEADERS?

I've been doing this fandom thing for many years now (10 years! Jesus Christ!), and I feel like I've had a really successful fangirl career. I'm not the best writer in the fandom; I'm probably not even the tenth best writer in the fandom, but those other ten girls are so fucking AWESOME that they deserve their spots in the sun, and in most cases I'm, no shit, the biggest fan they have. But I'm proud of what I write, and I get some of the best feedback on the planet -- I'm consistently amazed at the time and the attention that my little cadre of readers invests, time and again, in what I write. I'm happy being the kind of writer I am -- I mean, if I weren't, it's not like I'm too stupid to figure out what kind of thing I should be writing to get more attention. If I needed universal validation, I wouldn't have spent the last month of my life writing a giant fucking het epic with an OFC; the story before that I wouldn't have shot John; I'd do a lot of things differently, if being in the mainstream of SGA fandom was my big goal. I love what I do and I wouldn't change it for the world, and I've never been less than humbled and amazed by the attention I do get. This is to say: I'm not on this Earth to win over the McShep brigade, and they could ignore me until the end of time and it really wouldn't phase me at all.

What leaves me shocked and hurt and angry isn't that there's a large segment of the fandom that doesn't care for/about what I do. It's that I genuinely feel like they want us gone -- like they feel that SGA fandom and all its associated pan-fandom space (like noticeboard, for example) is and should be and deserves to be the property of its largest contingent -- as if the fandom should be majority-rules and that those of us who are hanging around loving the fuck out of X/Q or A/C or O/P or whatever it is we're passionate about are basically in the way. We're a nuisance that they have no choice but to wait out, hoping that soon the fandom can go back to what they basically think it is anyway: the glee club for the John and Rodney Show.

And, you know, a huge part of me wants to do exactly that. The constant, steady, relentless drumbeat of OMG DON'T YOU JUST LOVE EVERYTHING ABOUT THEM ALL THE TIME?!!?11! is wearing enough as it is -- and I'm not even anti- the pairing. It's just like somebody trying to get you to eat strawberry shortcake seven times a day, every day of your life. Strawberry shortcake is *fine,* it's nice, I like it perfectly well, right up until the day when you hit that wall and all you can think is JESUS, SHUT THE FUCK UP, I'LL HURL ALL OVER THE FLOOR IF I SEE ONE MORE STRAWBERRY FUCKING SHORTCAKE. And that's sad, because it's a nice dessert, and McKay/Sheppard is a nice pairing (I have at least ten or twelve stories within it saved in my permanent collection of Bulletproof Fic that I read every time I need my comfort fix). Even if I had the power, I wouldn't want to stop people from digging on their favorite thing and I don't want to make them feel guilty for doing so, which is why I put 99% of the burden on myself. I avoid the places I know I can expect the especially shrill and piercing variety of squee that I know rubs me the wrong way. I choose what I click and don't click on. I tailor my Fandom Experience so that I stay as much as possible out of the situations that I know will set me off (obviously, I'm not successful every single day). And on the days when all of that feels impossible, like an umbrella in a hurricane, yeah, I consider severing my ties with this fandom.

But, you know, there's a lot that I'd miss, too. And I kind of like being the Loyal Opposition -- I think we're worth something, me and the rest of the fans who love our X/Q and our O/P and our other pairings that y'all think are weird and boring and squicky and totally violate the perfect purity of Rodney & John's eternal bliss. And basically, if we can slog along, hoping for our little moments, hoping this'll be the one day this week when one of our own will pop up with a story in our beloved pairing, patiently hitting our scroll button over and over and knowing that the charge we get will be even better for having had to wait for it and discover it -- then you can surely endure to have us around. And any suggestion that you can't endure it, or that you have to run and flee and hide from reminders that we exist -- well, that's just being a bad fucking winner.

There's such a thing as Carson fans in this fandom. There's such a thing as Teyla fans. There's such a thing as Elizabeth fans in this fandom. PLEASE BELIEVE ME WHEN I SAY, WE HAVE ALL HAD A HARD YEAR OF IT. We've taken hit after hit, only to have people who write stories that suggest that John and Rodney live alone on a space station somewhere tell us that we're big whiners and anything short of being totally stoked about s4 is childish and unfair. If you can't possibly find it within yourself to be sympathetic allies, even though your guys still are and always will be the leads and you don't have to worry that you'll ever be in our position -- if you can't be our friends in this, please at least refrain from acting as if you resent the pieces of the fandom we've carved out for ourselves, and most of all refrain from suggesting that public SGA fandom space isn't large enough for all of us at once. Because we all know that you're not going anywhere. Nor should you have to.

Nor should we.
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Date: 2007-04-20 08:41 am (UTC)From: [identity profile] liviapenn.livejournal.com
ext_108: Jules from Psych saying "You guys are thinking about cupcakes, aren't you?" (Default)

Oh, God, I hate CharacterZ/CharacterQ, and lately everyone seems to love them, and this will only get those other fans all excited. Maybe I'll just unsubscribe from sga_noticeboard until I don't have to worry about seeing all those CharacterZ/CharacterQ stories floating around.

Oh, man, this would have made the top of my head blow off, too.

It's so *terribly awful* when other fans get to be happy for once, is it? It's such a *trial* when canon actually supports other pairings besides your OTP? It's almost like you're watching an ensemble show with more than two characters and more than a single viable pairing with actual canon support!

You know, I *like* John and Rodney. I like John/Rodney together. I've *written* John and Rodney together. Like you, some of my favorite stories in this fandom are John/Rodney-- maybe even most of them.

And I know that *most* of the time when people make jokes about "the John and Rodney show," -- they don't *mean* it in that irritating way. They don't really *mean* to say "this is the John and Rodney show and the John and Rodney fandom, dammit, and if you're not a McShep OTP person then you're watching the show wrong and you have no place here and you might as well leave..."

But when you hear shades of that, over and over and over again...

(I, personally, have criticized people for being too goddamn negative about S4, but I hope I've never come across as saying it's unreasonable to have *any* trepidation about S4. I'm just annoyed at people who are *actually trying to hurt the show* rather than just stop watching if they don't like it any more.)

Date: 2007-04-20 08:44 am (UTC)From: [identity profile] dodificus.livejournal.com
I feel pretty naive because I have been a fan of fandom for a *long* time now and I mostly see it through rose tinted glasses, which I guess is a lot easier when you're on the sidelines. My love for fanfic and the rest of it often exceeds my love for the source material...by a *lot*. I'm a fan of the writers and artists and fangirl squee-ers and reccers and communities and *everything*. I have less than no talent for writing/drawing/organising so I'm content to just sit back in awe of the awesome talent that I see *every single day*. If you're good then you're good and it doesn't (shouldn't) matter what area you're using your talent in. I guess what I'm trying to say is that I'm sorry that there are people out there that have taken, or are trying to take, some of the joy out of your experience here.

And your rodney/ronon stories? They're on *my* Bullet Proof Fic list.

Date: 2007-04-20 09:15 am (UTC)From: [identity profile] lamaudite.livejournal.com
ext_39897: Andrew Buchan as John Mercer, holding a gun (Default)
I'm not going anywhere.

McShep rules? I don't really pay attention to it. I've got my favourite pairings, I've got the ones that are interesting because they're rare or surprising, and I'll often give them a go. I'm not against McShep but I very rarely read them. I'll read them if Ronon (or someone else) is thrown in. Otherwise, it's just too... well, I don't know... common? Watered down?

But to each is own, you know. I think there's plenty to go around for everyone. And if the McShep brigade has to suffer us being around, I couldn't care less. They should. :)

As long as I can get my fic fix, I don't care if I'm being stared at like I've grown a second head because I don't like Strawberry Shortcake. I like Shep, I like McKay moderately, but McShep doesn't do it for me. That should be fine with others just like I don't expect anyone else to rave over the pairings I like.

You say some nitwit is taking offence at that? I say let her wallow in her self-pity party.

Date: 2007-04-20 11:06 am (UTC)From: [identity profile] --tk--.livejournal.com
*looks shifty* My favorite pairing is...Rodney/Ronon. There I said it. Hopefully, I will still be alive to read another one.

Date: 2007-04-20 11:12 am (UTC)From: [identity profile] apple-pi.livejournal.com
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I can totally understand your hurt here. It's a Strawberry Shortcake world for sure, and being told you can't even HAVE tiramisu once a month just adds insult to injury. (To abuse the hell out of a perfectly innocent metaphor, sorry.)

You know I'm definitely a McKay/Sheppard shipper, and I squee about the boys; they're by far my favorite pairing. But in recent months, thanks to a lot of great writers (you and [livejournal.com profile] minervacat come to mind), I've definitely read a lot of other pairings. And reading them doesn't detract at all from my McKay/Sheppard crush; hell, it sometimes adds so much to the mix, like when I read your OT4. There are certain pairings I'll probably never read (I like Tori Higginson, but Elizabeth is just not my cuppa), but what's the point of insulting Sparky shippers and making them feel like they're not welcome? It's a big fandom (really fucking big!), there's room for everyone.

Date: 2007-04-20 11:25 am (UTC)From: [identity profile] mecurtin.livejournal.com
I believe (in a blurry there's-not-enough-caffeine-in-my-bloodstream-yet way) that I saw that post, too. I think you may have misinterpreted it. (or we may be thinking of two different posts, because I don't recall anything about unsubscribing from the noticeboard)

The person isn't cranky just because she sees Z/Q stories on the noticeboard, it's because Z/Q shows up as a secondary or background pairing in McShep stories she is reading. So even if she only reads McShep, Z/Q comes creeping into *her* stories.

But then, I just can't get that irritated at what people do in fandom, I follow politics too closely. Politics: Making Fandom Look UnWanky Since ... Forever, Actually.

Date: 2007-04-20 12:04 pm (UTC)From: [identity profile] cathexys.livejournal.com
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I don't think you should delete, b/c I think this is a totally reasonable and not actually in any way, shape, or form offensive rant.

I can't say that I don't ship McShep and pretty much as time goes on am actually reading more exclusively than I used to. At the same time, I'm glad that there's at least a little subfandom that doesn't, that takes these characters other places and sees them differently! And heck, tenth best or not *g*, you're one of the people that can and will make me read other pairings and make me believe them and ship them for just a little bit.

But yes, the attitude is pretty much like the one when people complain when others love another fandom. Instead of being happy that they are happy, it's a very selfish seeming competition that I really dislike and try hard to suppress when, like, my favorite writer's suddenly writing in a fandom where I have to google the character names, y'know :) I want to be happy for everyone getting their squee, and you're right, you guys are already playing with a humongous handicap! It's not a zero sum game but rather squee increases squee I believe!

8hugs*

Date: 2007-04-20 12:27 pm (UTC)From: [identity profile] solvent90.livejournal.com
Oh dear, I'm so sorry that the heavy it's all about the McShep slant in this fandom makes it less welcoming to you. Partly, obviously, because I'm sorry that it's hurt you, but also from a purely selfish point of view - it would seriously impoverish this fandom, for me, if you weren't writing in it. I'm trying to phrase this in a way that isn't just *clings to your knees*, but. Hm. *clings to your knees* I just, I really hugely love your vision of these people and the universe they inhabit - I come to your fic for Atlantis, you know, the whole complex fascinating thing, these people and their tangled-together relationships and you always make it more than I ever realise it can be - and no amount of adorable "John and Rodney are in loove" fics, much I enjoy them, would fill in the gap if you left.

*goes back to staring gloomily at the stalled Rodney/Ronon crazy AU*

Date: 2007-04-20 12:30 pm (UTC)From: [identity profile] terrie01.livejournal.com
Oh, fer... And people wonder why I get bitter and refer to the pairing as McSheep.

Date: 2007-04-20 12:41 pm (UTC)From: [identity profile] merryish.livejournal.com
*HUG*

That's a rotten attitude, and I'm sorry it's out there. Just know that for every one person who feels that way, there are ten others out there actively practicing "the more the merrier".

Maybe you have to have been around the fannish block a time or two to realize that while in this fanspace you may be in love with SGA's darlings (I am), your next fannish dream team may be shared by exactly one other person (who is possibly sixteen, and can't spell, and wants Harry and Murphy to get MARRIED). :: kof :: Not that I speak from any kind of experience. But - my point is, I think those of us who've been around for a while have been there, and have some empathy for fans of less overwhelming pairings.

I wish fandom love skewed fair, but it's never going to. So, you know, just *hug* and you know not everybody feels that way. I want you here.

Date: 2007-04-20 12:58 pm (UTC)From: [identity profile] janedavitt.livejournal.com
I'm on the fringes of the fandom when it comes to reading/writing - I pretty much just watch the show. And I'm a McKay/Sheppard fan, yes, but I never forget that when I watched Rising the zing I saw was Sheppard/Ford and right now what pushes my buttons is Ronon/Sheppard with a side order of why does no one write Caldwell, dammit and I have that on my to-do list though I don't know if I ever will.

Anyway. That would have pissed me off, too. Sheesh. Suck it up and scroll.

Date: 2007-04-20 01:02 pm (UTC)From: [identity profile] anatsuno.livejournal.com
ext_230: a tiny green frog on a very red leaf (Default)
gah. :/
I mean, seriously. I'm a john/rodney otp-er and things like that - the discourse you object to, not yours - make me twist my head backwards wondering if I've inadvertently oppressed any non-john-rodney fan this week with my thoughtless t-rex-like presence in the fandom. Because of course I take my pairing for granted in a way, it's everywhere, it's easy to immerse yourself in it and forget about the others if you want, and even if you're not looking for that it might kind of just happens anyway, the waters of the mainstream pairing closing over your head. So it does take *some* vigilance not to become the asshole, there... Plus I can't even begin to understand that kinf of earnest opinion. How can anyone be bothered by the mere existence of another pairin? I've always found that ridiculous.

Date: 2007-04-20 01:03 pm (UTC)From: (Anonymous)
*sigh* I wish this was new but in no way is it. There are some who go out of their way to express their hatred of certain pairings. To some, clearly its a spectator sport to make fun of others. This fandom more than any other I've been connected shows the worst in fandom ever - the only positive is that it can express the greatest in fandom too.

Date: 2007-04-20 01:23 pm (UTC)From: [identity profile] justbreathe80.livejournal.com
I am SO with you. My experience in this fandom so far has been negative in this regard. I think people who are into the dominant pairing feeling all bent out of shape about what other people choose to do is one of the stupidest things on the planet. Just like you said, THAT'S WHAT THE MOTHERFUCKING BACK BUTTON IS FOR, PEOPLE! You don't have to read anything you don't like. My favorite pairing (at the moment, anyway) is John/Ronon, and there are maybe, what? Three people writing it? I don't think that John/Rodney people have any footing to be upset by the mere existence of other pairings. I will admit that I don't GET some pairings, but that doesn't mean it doesn't have the right to exist.

The longer I spend in this fandom, the more I think that the SGA fandom is like an bratty adolescent, and I keep waiting for the massive blowup (around things like pairings and BNFs) to happen so that the fandom can grow the fuck up already and be an adult. Meanwhile, I will be hiding in the corner, writing whatever the fuck strikes my fancy, and honestly? If I get a comment from someone like you, whom I respect, I don't care if the majority of people give a shit.

Date: 2007-04-20 04:32 pm (UTC)From: [identity profile] 30toseoul.livejournal.com
Damn. I'm glad I haven't seen the post that you're talking about. That kind of massive selfish entitlement drives me insane.

You know, I think it drives me even more insane because I truly don't believe the people who have that selfish attitude are the majority of the McKay/Sheppard fans -- it's just that, unfortunately, they're frequently the loudest and most shit-stirring. They drown out the hordes of reasonable decent people who are able to happily enjoy their Fandom Experience without shitting on other people's fun. I mean, my flist is still majority McKay/Sheppard people because that's what my first dozen or so fics were, but with one glaring anonymous exception, nobody has given me any flack when I started writing OT4 or when I focus on John/Ronon or Rodney/Teyla or whatever within OT4. Quite the opposite -- most folks have followed right along and joined in the squee. (Admittedly that's easier for McKay/Sheppard fans to do with OT4 than if I'd suddenly started with Carson/Radek or something, but still.) Aside from that single anonymous wacko, I've never seen any attitude or disrepectful comments from anyone who enjoyed my earlier McKay/Sheppard stuff. I may be aware that OT4 isn't appealing to some people who'd previously been regular readers, but I only know that because they don't comment -- they've never taken any passive-aggressive sideswipes at me for straying away from the perfect purity of Rodney & John's eternal bliss. (Heh -- I love you for that phrase, by the way. *g*)

Anyway, please hang in there, and try not to let the childish asshats bug you too much. I know it can be tough. I'm not trying to invalidate your frustration or be all Little Mary Sunshine, but I really do believe that they aren't the majority -- their shrillness can just make them seem like it.

And also, I would personally be very sad if you ever did sever your ties with the fandom. I CAN'T TELL YOU how much I'm drooling in anticipation for your next convoluted OT4 opus. *beams*

Date: 2007-04-20 04:51 pm (UTC)From: [personal profile] amalthia
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Yeah that statement would have upset me too if I saw it. I think my love of SGA has lasted as long as it did because of the variety of stories/pairings written by good authors. Though it does seem like 90% of the fan fiction is McKay/Sheppard...basically I think the best fandoms are the ones that have multiple plausible or completely implausible character pairings. I don't get why people have to be such bitches about it though. :( But I think Stargate SG-1 set the trend of people hating on other people's favorite pairings and I think some of those fans maybe migrated to SGA. :( My viewpoint is if you don't like something skip over it and move on.

you stand out in this fandom because you write a pairing I want to read but not many people are willing or interested in writing. Some of my favorite authors are on my list because they don't write Mckay/Sheppard or they are willing to write more than one pairing and explore options.

Date: 2007-04-20 05:25 pm (UTC)From: [identity profile] lilyayl.livejournal.com
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Thank you for posting this. I'm still slightly in shock that someone actually said that/behaved that way. It is mind-boggling, because I do not see how she could complain. She doesn't have to wait weeks for one fic for a favorite ship to be written and posted. Etc.

Anyway, don't delete this. Please.

Date: 2007-04-20 05:39 pm (UTC)From: [identity profile] greenlily.livejournal.com
Sigh. This is why my personal participation in fandom tends to be more "OMG the source material makes me squee!!! People other than me love it and write about it!! Double squee!!!" and less "I can only enjoy fanfiction if it supports my take on the source material. Promote my OTP or die."

I have never understood people whose enjoyment of a thing is diminished by the knowledge that other people enjoy it differently. That seems like what you're talking about here. My condolences.

Date: 2007-04-20 05:57 pm (UTC)From: [personal profile] trialia
trialia: Ziva David (Cote de Pablo), head down, hair wind-streamed, eyes almost closed. (Default)
Thank you. So fucking much. Why can't I be this coherent in my ranting?

I'm a multi-shipper, and there are three 'ships that I won't touch with a bargepole, and I'm sure you know from my response to this what at least one of them is. I'm a devoted Elizabeth fan. I love Teyla. And I'm also a fan of Rodney... but I resent to all hell the behaviour of certain groups of the Sheppard/McKay fans of late over all this. I really, really do. Your last big paragraph says pretty much why, too.

I'm so fucking sick of certain fan groups - and there are five or six obsessive, very vocal John/Teyla shippers I know who do this as well - gloating over other fan groups' misfortunes and then whining when people do it to them. Now, I'll be honest, I wasn't all that kind when the first rumours of Carson being killed off came to light, because I'm not a fan, but I wasn't deliberately nasty about it, unlike certain people...

In this fandom you apparently can't be a fan of Elizabeth and Teyla at the same time, or John and Rodney without 'shipping them together. And you can't be a fan of Ronon if you like John/Teyla. Or so these groups of people insist. Loudly. Which is so much bullshit. I like John and Rodney, and I like their banter all right-- I just don't want to watch The John and Rodney Show all the damn time. I want equal time for the rest of the characters I've loved.

I quit watching Atlantis after First Strike, though I know there haven't been episodes aired after that, but I'm really too sick of both fandom and the arrogant behaviour of certain PTB to stay around. I'm sick of being kicked in the teeth by TPTB and fandom at large and then going back for more-- I just won't do it anymore.

Date: 2007-04-20 06:00 pm (UTC)From: [personal profile] trialia
trialia: Ziva David (Cote de Pablo), head down, hair wind-streamed, eyes almost closed. (Default)
Dude, you're writing Rodney/Ronon? Rock on! I run the fanlisting for that pairing. ^_^ May I link you when you post?

Date: 2007-04-20 06:56 pm (UTC)From: [identity profile] solvent90.livejournal.com
:) Sure, if ever I do get this thing finished and posted. Um. *fiddles with pimp hat* I have written a couple of short Rodney/Ronon pieces before, if you, ahem, want to link those: White Lies (http://solvent90.livejournal.com/4741.html#cutid1), and Deflect and Disarm (http://solvent90.livejournal.com/20896.html#cutid1), as well as a teeny snippet-thing, give (http://solvent90.livejournal.com/16533.html#cutid1).

Date: 2007-04-20 06:58 pm (UTC)From: [personal profile] trialia
trialia: Ziva David (Cote de Pablo), head down, hair wind-streamed, eyes almost closed. (Default)
I would love to! Thanks ever so much. ^_^ I'll pop them in there on my next update.

Date: 2007-04-20 07:04 pm (UTC)From: [personal profile] havocthecat
havocthecat: the lady of shalott (Default)
So even if she only reads McShep, Z/Q comes creeping into *her* stories.

That's not really all that awful a fate to have. Seriously.

What? Dresden Files is on-topic, right?

Date: 2007-04-20 07:11 pm (UTC)From: [personal profile] havocthecat
havocthecat: the lady of shalott (Default)
(who is possibly sixteen, and can't spell, and wants Harry and Murphy to get MARRIED).

Oh, my God. *horrified look* Seriously? I mean, I love Harry/Murphy (do you prefer book or TV?), but MARRIED? Those two? You've got to be kidding me.

Date: 2007-04-20 08:08 pm (UTC)From: [identity profile] liviapenn.livejournal.com
ext_108: Jules from Psych saying "You guys are thinking about cupcakes, aren't you?" (Default)

So even if she only reads McShep, Z/Q comes creeping into *her* stories.

I really gotta say... the attitude you're describing? Is exactly the attitute people have a problem with.

Let's call your hypothetical fan Susie. Susie's upset by things she doesn't like creeping into "her" stories.

The sheer entitlement in that phrasing makes my head spin.

What makes these stories "hers," exactly? What makes her think she's got some right be upset-- when 80% of the fandom is already catering to her-- to whine about a few rare individuals writing about *background pairings* she doesn't like in "her" stories or "her" fandom?

But then, I just can't get that irritated at what people do in fandom, I follow politics too closely.

Oh, is there anything interesting in politics going on right now? Goodness, I'm sure I would never have known if you hadn't mentioned it. [/sarcasm]
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