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I think I'll quote somebody out of context, because that's always worked really well for me in the past.

Saying "black characters are written too broadly in New Who, making them resemble stereotypes" rather ignores the fact that white characters are treated the same way.

Look. This is the problem with trying to raise white people on Sesame Street in order to cure racism: you get a generation of white people who think it's to their credit that they hold everyone to the same standard, and run around operating like the world is one big, happy block party -- people who think they're complementing themselves when they say they're "colorblind."

BLIND is not a moral positive. BLIND is an inability to perceive what the non-blind people around you can clearly fucking see. My grandfather was red/green colorblind. His family also had a strawberry farm. His father used to beat him for not obeying instructions to pick only the RED strawberries and leave the GREEN ones on the bush.

Now, I'm not recommending regular beatings for the colorblind. That wasn't a nice thing to do (my great-grandfather was not a nice person in general, for oh so many reasons). But the thing is, my grandfather's colorblindness? Was a problem, because there is actually such a thing as color when it comes to strawberries, and it's easier to work on a strawberry farm when you can see it.

And there is actually such a thing as race. If you can't see it, you're not doing yourself or anyone else any favors. There are cases where you can give the EXACT SAME script/character arc/iconography/etc. to a white performer and to a performer of color, and the overall effect WILL BE DIFFERENT. Race is real. People respond to it, often on levels they aren't entirely aware of. So it actually misses the whole entire point of discussing race and racism if your sole defense is "but we're just treating them the exact same way we treat white characters!" It may be true, or it may not be true, but either way it's singularly useless.

Some fans seem to find gender easier to understand than race, so think of it this way: if there's a character that isn't very bright but always uses sexuality to manipulate other people, does it make a difference if that character is a man or a woman? Isn't it more of a stereotype in one case than in the other? And if some writer or producer said, "Oh, it's not sexist -- this is just what we were going to do, and we thought we might hire a male actor, but we went with a woman instead, so we kept the same stuff!" that doesn't magically make her not a sexist cliche, does it? If they'd cast a man, the character would read one way; when they do cast a woman, it reads differently. Same character. Different, because of the baggage we bring surrounding gender. If you were somehow magically oblivious to any and all gender issues, you might not notice that. But you wouldn't thereby be a better person than the rest of us. You'd just be oblivious.

Unfortunately, in our culture, we are conditioned to see white people as Real People, and black people as sort of thin slices of people, operating in one of a very few available modes and with only a very few emotions and interests. Therefore it's just different to write a white character "broadly" versus a black character. It's not enough to write the black character "just like" all your white characters, because race is not invisible to most of us and it doesn't have no consequences. In order to challenge people's already racist assumptions about black characters, writers have to work that much harder, and they have to work not blind. They have to work with their eyes open and their brains engaged and with the awareness of subtle signals and context and connotation that anyone who writes for a living should damn well be conversant with. To do less than that is to write lazily, to write foolishly, to write contemptuously of one's characters and one's craft, and to do all that because you can't or won't go the extra mile to bring race into the universe of stuff that factors into your writing does, in fact, have racist implications.

"Colorblindness" may be one's reason for making all of those mistakes, but it isn't an excuse, and it doesn't magically make the product impervious from criticism. Be less blind.

Date: 2007-07-15 03:16 am (UTC)From: [identity profile] florence-craye.livejournal.com
Most of them are dead, unfortunately. This is a result of hundreds of years of genocide. I agree that their issues should get more attention here, but you wanted a reason and there it is. Most of the populations of Indigenous Americans are no longer with us. The few who survive are shoved onto reservations and ignored because it is easier to forget about them than to deal with the guilt caused by our ancestors' deeds.

Their people and cultures can survive in a small number, but since their cultures are purposely pushed out of the way in American life it is harder to get word out about their plight here. I don't say it's right, but that is likely the reason for the lack of action and/or concern from most Americans. That is what I was trying to make clear. It's sad, but most Americans are not sensitive to issues that aren't reported by the major news media or personally encountered by them.

Date: 2007-07-15 03:39 am (UTC)From: [identity profile] danamaree.livejournal.com
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It's sad, but most Americans are not sensitive to issues that aren't reported by the major news media or personally encountered by them.

I think that might be true everywhere.

It must be so frustrating to be an Indigenous person where nobody recognises or understands your culture (which also happen here). Or frustrating for everyone who wants justice.

It's something we discussed quite a bit at work, comparing Indigenous issues between different political systems across the world. I keep meaning to look up how things work in the US, but I get so busy with other things :(

Date: 2007-07-15 02:56 pm (UTC)From: [identity profile] nell65.livejournal.com
If you ever do get around to looking things up, a few helpful google phrases that would capture the ways that Native American issues *are* frequently, seriously, several times a month or more even in my local paper, and much more often in election cycles, in the news around the US - other than indigenous peoples, which isn't a phrase used particularly much in the US to describe Native-Americans or native american issues - would be "casinos," or "indian gaming" or some combination of the two, and "fishing rights."

These issues - at least in my part of the US - are constant fodder for politics, news, and debate. But I am not surprised that internationally they don't flag as what they are. They sound like local government. Which, they also are, with all the pettyness and soap opera qualities one ought to expect!

Also - as a result of a variety of influences, right now - and again I'm speaking mostly from my part of the US - many Native American people are *extremely* wary or even outright opposed to sharing much of their remaining culture with outsiders, despite being the minority group most likely to marry outside their own.

Many elders choose silence, actively and consiously, when dealing with the outside world.

Date: 2007-07-15 03:27 pm (UTC)From: [identity profile] florence-craye.livejournal.com
In my part of the US, they are not so well-reported. We have many organizations fighting for NA or IA rights, but I think the media here still just don't get it. (In my state we have no casinos, so there isn't much to report in that respect.)

In our part of the US, the few stories are about burial grounds and the legislation protecting them when a construction company finds one on the property they want to build on.

Date: 2007-07-15 07:05 pm (UTC)From: [identity profile] nell65.livejournal.com
I live in the upper midwest - so casinos *and* fishing rights (and burial issues and treaty rights and reservation-buy backs) are pretty steadily in the news and part of the constant negotiations that make up local and state-level politics.

Which is part of my frustration when even local people -who should know better!- dismiss Native-Americans as a 'mostly-deal' people, safe to regret sadly.

There is a native-run casino right in the middle of our downtown!!

Date: 2007-07-19 03:19 am (UTC)From: [identity profile] florence-craye.livejournal.com
Hi, I thought I'd replied to this earlier! Thanks for sending me some needed info on NA issues. I apologize for contributing to your frustration with my replies. I was meaning to say that because their numbers are smaller, which makes them less visible, that we should pay more attention to their issues than we do as NA issues need as much pushing for change as possible. I hope it didn't come across otherwise.

Date: 2007-07-15 03:30 pm (UTC)From: [identity profile] florence-craye.livejournal.com
It is very frustrating! It's frustrating for all minority groups to be heard, especially with the current administration (and the administrations around the world). I imagine it's even more insulting and frustrating if your people are the original inhabitants of the land.

Re the US: It's also very confusing for people who live here, and it can vary from one part of the country to the next. So it depends on where you look, I suppose. (See nell65's comment and my reply to it.)

Date: 2007-07-15 03:07 pm (UTC)From: [identity profile] nell65.livejournal.com
Weellll, I wouldn't be so quick to frame Native Americans as 'mostly dead' (Princess Bride reference intentional!). Their numbers have rebounded dramatically in the last census cycle, in part because of a change in terminology, which allowed for respondents to select multiple categories, which in turn is begining to allow for the possiblity of a clearer view of the very long existance of peoples of mixed Native-American-Something-Else heritage. Native Americans also don't all live on reservations. A significant minority (at least, I don't have good stats and I'm not sure anyone else does either) live off reservation, where they are often near invisible - in part by their own choice.

The myth that Native-Americans are 'mostly dead' is in itself a problem when trying to really get a handle on how people in the US deal with Native-Americans and Native American issues.

Date: 2007-07-15 03:14 pm (UTC)From: [identity profile] florence-craye.livejournal.com
That's good news! Although, I doubt their numbers are quite what they were before the white settlers came in.

I would choose to be invisible as well, if this country treated my people they way it has.

I suppose the next question is: what can we do next to ensure continuing progress?

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